Episode 4

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13th Aug 2025

$1,000, a Suitcase, and a Portfolio: How Stuart Lee Built Prime Studio on Grit and Relationships

From Scarborough to Midtown Manhattan, Stuart Lee’s journey is one of grit, curiosity, and unshakable design intuition. In this episode, Chris sits down in person with Stuart to explore the formative moments that led to the founding of Prime Studio — the product and brand design consultancy behind household names like Harry’s, Welly, and MoMA. 

Stuart shares how rewiring motors and welding steel during his early apprenticeship helped him think more empathetically about design for manufacture, why he sees himself as a design doer (not a design thinker), and what still excites him after 27 years leading his own studio. 

It’s a rich, no-frills conversation on design craft, business instinct, and the value of simply being a good person in a small industry. 

In This Episode 

The Yorkshire lad who arrived in NYC with a suitcase and a portfolio 

Smart Design, Able, and the building blocks of Prime Studio 

“The design we do is never just design — it's operations, manufacturing, supply chain.” 

Why Stuart never plans too far ahead (and how that’s worked just fine) 

Lessons from building long-term client partnerships, from Unilever to Harry’s 

Teaching the next generation: real talk on job hunting, ChatGPT cover letters, and why “Dear Hiring Manager” just doesn’t cut it 

Royalties, equity, and what designers should really know about contracts 

“As a consultant, your only value is your people.” 


Quotes to Remember 

“It's work you're looking for, so you have to work at it.” 

“I’m not a planner. I kind of ride the wave — but I’ve been riding it for 27 years.” 

“I always say Smart Design is where I learned to be a designer. Able is where I learned the business of design.” 

“Royalties smooth things out. You might not get the big equity payout, but you get forecastable cash flow — and that’s everything in business.” 


🔎 Resources & Links 

🌍 Prime Studio 

💼 Connect with Stuart on LinkedIn 

🎥 Watch full episodes on YouTube 

📸 Follow on Instagram 

🎵 TikTok: @_whydesign 

👥 Join the Why Design community: events, huddles, and workshops → teamkodu.com/events 

🔗 Follow Chris Whyte on LinkedIn → linkedin.com/in/mrchriswhyte 


About Kodu 

Why Design is produced by Kodu, a recruitment partner to ambitious hardware brands, design consultancies, and product start-ups. We help founders and teams identify, attract, and hire the best talent across industrial design, mechanical engineering, and product leadership. Learn more at Home - Kodu 

Transcript
Chris Whyte (:

Hello and welcome to Wide Design.

Hello and welcome to Y Design. I'm your host Chris White and this is episode four of series three. I recorded this one in person at lounge studios in New York, just a few doors down from Prime Studio. So it was a good excuse to sit down with Stuart Lee, the founder and creative director and spend some time with his team while we're still on.

Chris Whyte (:

Hello and welcome to Why Design. I'm your host, Chris White, and this is episode four of series three. Recorded this one in person at lounge studios in New York, just a few doors down from Prime Studio. So it was a good excuse to sit down with Stuart Lee, the founder and creative director, and spend some time with his team while we were on the same floor. Stuart's been running Prime for nearly 30 years. If you don't know the studio, you'll definitely know some of the brands he's worked with.

Harry's, Dove, MoMA, Welly, our place to name but a few. He's kept the studio intentionally small and independent. And we talked a lot about what it takes to build something that lasts that long without chasing scale or getting pulled in too many directions. He shared how Prime started with a few freelance clients and a kitchen table and how over the years they've figured out what they're good at, where they add value, and how to build long-term relationships with clients.

We got into things like royalties, equity, and how he hires, how he mentors, and how saying no is often what makes space for the right kind of work. There's loads in here for anyone running a consultancy or thinking about starting one. And then somewhere along the way, Stuart turned the tables and started asking me questions. What I really...

And somewhere along the way, Stuart turned the tables and started asking me questions, which I really enjoyed. It became more of a conversation than an interview. And it gave us space to talk about where the industry is heading and what we've

Chris Whyte (:

And somewhere along the way, Stuart turned the tables and started asking me questions, which I really enjoyed. It became more of a conversation than an interview. And it gave us space to talk about where the industry is heading and what we're both seeing from different sides. So here it is, my conversation with Stuart Lee. Let's get into it.

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About the Podcast

WHY DESIGN?
For people interested in physical product design and development
Why Design is a podcast exploring the stories behind hardware and physical product development. Hosted by Chris Whyte, founder of Kodu, the show dives into the journeys of founders, senior design leaders, and engineers shaping people and planet-friendly products.

Formerly "The Design Journeys Podcast", each episode uncovers pivotal career moments, lessons learned, and behind-the-scenes insights from industry experts. Whether you’re a designer, engineer, or simply curious about how great hardware products come to life, Why Design offers real stories, actionable advice, and inspiration for anyone passionate about design and innovation.

Join us as we listen, learn, and connect through the stories that define the world of physical product development.

About your host

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Chris Whyte

Hi, I'm your host of Why Design? (Formerly "The Design Journeys Podcast")

I'm also the founder of Kodu - a specialist recruitment consultancy focused exclusively on physical product development. It's the people who I've met in my years in the industry that inspired me to start this podcast.

When I'm not hosting the podcast, I help physical product brands, start-ups and design consultancies identify, attract and hire the best product design & engineering talent ahead of their competitors, across the USA, UK and Europe 🇺🇸🇬🇧🇪🇺

I focus exclusively on 𝐩𝐡𝐲𝐬𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐭 𝐝𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐨𝐩𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 (𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘢𝘱𝘱𝘴!)

𝐃𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧 & 𝐃𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐨𝐩𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐋𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐬:
✅ Do you have high growth plans for your physical product development and engineering division?
✅ Would you like to engage with and source those hard-to-find Design Engineers and Industrial Designers?
✅ Are you spending too much time in the hiring process only to find that the talent doesn't match your expectations?

𝐃𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐄𝐧𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐫𝐬, 𝐌𝐞𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐄𝐧𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐈𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐃𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐬:
✅ Are you interested in joining an exciting start-up, design consultancy or technology brand?
✅ Interested in honest, transparent advice as to which companies would be the best fit for you?

If you agree with any of the above, I know how you feel as I deal with people just like you every day.

I have successfully placed hundreds of design engineers, industrial designers, managers and directors into some of the world's most exciting technology brands, start-ups and consultancies.

My clients tell me they work with me because:

⭐ I focus on long-term relationship building, not transactions
⭐ I speak their language and understand their businesses and job roles
⭐ I’m professional, yet friendly and very approachable
⭐ My robust process significantly reduces time-to-hire

I’ve worked within consumer electronics, homewares, kitchen appliances, e-bikes, medical devices, gaming controllers, furniture, life-sciences, audio-equipment, vacuum cleaners and more!

Typically, I recruit the following roles:
💡 VP Engineering
💡 Engineering Director
💡 Design Manager
💡 Industrial Designer
💡 Product Designer (products not apps!)
💡 Product Design Engineer
💡 Mechanical Design Engineer
💡 Mechanical Engineer

Outside of work, I'm a wannabe rock star and a father to two teenagers. I support Manchester United and I'm terrible at FIFA/FC24 🤓

If you want to talk about my work or anything else, message me on here and I'll respond as soon as I can. Or you can reach me via:

chris@teamkodu.com

UK: +44 7538 928 518
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